Statement Concerning Tanaka

On the day originally scheduled for the first operation, Hirako did tell someone that the operation would not be held that day. Hirako did tell Tanaka (?) to get specimens from the man that was operating, but didn't specify whether dead or alive- this was during the time that PWs were being operated on in May 1945, on the first day of the operation, after Hirako had seen the operation and had gone back to his office, he believes.

Hirako recalls having a conversation as to preserving a PW body with either Tanaka, Makino or Goshima during the time that PWs were being operated on.. Probably talked to Tanaka and Makino.

Hirako then recalls saying, probably to Tanaka, that Ishiyama, at the request of the army was going to perform an operation on a Prisoner, that if he performed it at the surgical clinic, many people would see it and it would not be appropriate, so he asked permission to use the autopsy training room, that he was first promised the Pathology Dissection Room, but since too small, he wanted the anatomy dissecting room, that it would take place that PM. Hirako told someone to get some specimens from the operator, probably to Tanaka, probably not on the day that Ishiyama first called.

Hirako told Tanaka, Makino, Goshima and Ryu they could get specimens because Hirako knew they were working for degrees and could use them. However, he told them to get the specimens from the operator, not to take them from the bodies. 

If they did take the specimens they did it without Hirako's permission, but Hirako was responsible for them, will take responsibility for what they did.

1st series- still present when Torisu left after operations were finished, were: Ishiyama, Hirao, Komori, Senba, Tsutsui, Hirako, Tanaka, Sato, Sha, either Miki or Manabe, and 2-3 other doctors. Tanaka and 2-3 other doctors entered the autopsy room.

Brain operation- Tanaka and 2 junior staff officers were there, as well as autopsy students.

Sato came to the University several times, told Ishiyama, Torisu, and Hirao to keep the operations secret, to convey this to Tanaka, Hirako and Mori. Sato said to act as if innocent. 

During either the 1st or 2nd series, Nogawa saw Tanaka and another standing by one of the bodies; it looked as tho thy may have been removing specimens.